Ban darkshadow aka skyguy

Sat Feb 13, 2010 5:27 am by Prism

Furthermore, it is not all public, this is so I can get user opinions...Please do note not all is done in public.

Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:19 am by Unicron

Prism wrote:Furthermore, it is not all public, this is so I can get user opinions...Please do note not all is done in public.

Prism, you are not answering my concern. Pr3t3nd3r and Ra did not give any explanation as to why they are thinking about a sever wipe.
Anyway, I've already guessed that one of the reasons is because I got too strong.
I'm going to give a possible solution for you to convey to them, have the top 100 players to vote if they want me deleted.
If the vote is in favor of my deletion, I will delete my account along with the existing armies and resources.

Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:24 am by moro63

why cant we just have a all out war on u?o.o

Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:34 pm by Dolphin

Anyway, I've already guessed that one of the reasons is because I got too strong.

Hahahaha, play balance is important, but I don't think that alone would be a reason to reset a server.

When I joined I was under the impression that AH was still in beta and that eventually everything will be reset at some point anyways, was that not true?

Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:00 am by Pr3t3nd3r

Unicron wrote:Skyguy' deleted his former account on the pretext that it was gaining too much aggression from other players so he had to delete his account.

I do not see anything wrong with creating a new account with his former units transferred over.
Wouldn't it be worse for him since he had to rebuild the buildings and research all those techs again?

In my opinion, I don't think he can be considered a cheat.

I almost have the same opinion.
I'm sure he broken a lot of rules. But personally deleting your account, sending troops to an other player, getting troops from other players should be OK. Even a new player can get a huge army to advance faster if he ask for some troops from the right people.

There will be NO server wipe. I'm thinking at a new server(meaning 2 servers) because here will be hard for new players to catch the old players.

Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:09 am by Pr3t3nd3r

Prism wrote:That is over 469 population difference, and he is less then a week old...Btw...How do you jump over 150 population in 8 hours?
The issue, is that his "New" account was made while his old account still existed, and was only deleted upon him being informed he may be banned on for the same thing in Xeno..
So
1: His account still existed at the time of creation, by him having his old fleet is proof of that alone.
2: Because he is less then a week old he still has Fleet Protection, as well as you can no longer attack someone 1/4 of your size. For example, I can't attack someone under 400 population unless they have have played for three weeks.
3: Nothing has changed..
4:I am sure we are all aware..

I understand you Prism that you are a bit upset that you can not kill him any more. I say you should consider the battle won. (for now)
I think skyguy is a good player and is fun to play with him or against him, so maybe banning him is not the best solution.
Also starting again even with his old army is still giving him on a disadvantage.

I'm not sure what is the best solution, but a good player can rise a lot in few days.
The question is how much fun is to have equal opponent vs playing with no opponents.

Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:52 am by Dolphin

Sorry for the earlier aside, I forgot this is the wrong thread for that. Onto the original topic.

Now I'm normally the last person who would defend skyguy, but it sounds like skyguy only broke the rule of multi-acount (for this incident) and as I recall the punishment is 1-day IP-ban so why not just do that? I feel permanent ban is a bit severe for only two infractions (if memories serve the first infraction was for foul language on the forum). Any trouble he caused on Xeno should be treated separately to decide if he should be banned from Xeno.

As for attacking from under protection, that is a perfectly valid military tactic under the current game system. If a new player were to join an alliance at war, the alliance can just shift forces through the new player to attack from under protection. This scenario would pretty much be the same as what skyguy did except it's not skyguy doing it. Its ultimately up to the dev to decide whether they want to allow such tactics, since troop protection is being used in a way not originally intended. But punishment for exploiting a game rule in a way not previously discussed before just doesn't seem right. The fact is the devs never explicitly said troop protection cannot be used this way.

Sun Feb 14, 2010 3:11 am by Prism

I give up....

Next time please do read the topic, don't just post a reply..

My final ten statements.
1: Skyguy clearly has broken MORE then one rule.
2: He has as DJ said created imbalance
3: Its no fun playing when you can only defend..and he has a fleet the size of top 10 players..
4:Clearly everything I have said was ignored to some degree.
5:I SAID OK, on muti thing when Unicron said something. Please read the topic.
6:I never wanted to "kill" skyguy, he is the one who wants to kill me.
7: I was not calling for a permanent ban, I was calling for the ban as per rules, which I believe would be a 30 day ban. That I should of been more clear on.
8: Exploiting a rule is breaking the Terms of Agreement, which means a 30 day ban.
9: I am hereby going to stop playing Asgard Heroes...
10: I am greatly disappointed in some who replied the way they did.

Closing topic and moving to archive...

Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:27 pm by Pr3t3nd3r

I totally missed the part with attacking from under protection.
You can attack from under protection ? This should be fixed.

Edit.

It still more confusing. Usually the protection is implemented to be on both parties.

Also I don't have any idea if it is for the ships or troops ..

One missing point is the 120 population that was not protection for both players and I fixed it now.
Also at sending ships there was a problem. (hope is fixed now)

Yep. Your posts are misunderstood and your reactions are exaggerated.

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